In a new interview with Dream Theater World, the official DREAM THEATER fan club, Mike Mangini was asked about his October 2023 departure from DREAM THEATER. Mangini, who has been with the progressive metal band for 13 years, was dismissed from DREAM THEATER in order to make way for the return of the group’s original drummer, Mike Portnoy. Mangini said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): “Well, it’s like anything in my whole career in the past. ‘Okay, this is an event. Oh, that’s interesting.'”Believe it or not, when I get asked about this, I’m, like, my statement [that I released at the time of my DREAM THEATER departure] actually says it all. And what surprised me about the statement itself is that I am typically long-winded. I typically go off on tangents. I have that speaking-with-the-hands thing that’s very Mediterranean, and I can’t believe it, just like in a couple of sentences or a sentence, whatever it was, it’s, like, it said it all. That was it. So, I immediately was, like, ‘Oh, okay. I get it.'”No matter how many times I say it — a lot of times, people maybe in private ask me, ‘Oh, what else [happened]?'” he continued. “It’s, like, why would there be anything else? That’s it. That makes sense.”Referencing his mindset around the time of his exit from DREAM THEATER, Mangini said: “Where I was at the time — I have a cork board and I have things in my life categorized and all the education stuff as far as my products and services, which is full of index cards and unfinished tasks. And I looked at that, and I was, like, ‘Well, I know what I’ve gotta do right now.’ And so the very next day I was up nice and early, with a cup of coffee, steaming cup of black coffee, and just looking at it, going, ‘Okay, how do I do this?’ And I just started going. I mean, that’s what you do. That’s it.”When Portnoy’s return to DREAM THEATER was first announced on October 25, 2023, Mangini said in a statement: “I understand DREAM THEATER’s decision to get Mike Portnoy back at this time. As was said from Day 1, my place was not to fill all the roles that Mike held in the band. I was to play the drums in order to help the band carry on. My main role of keeping our live show working tightly on a nightly basis was an intense and rewarding experience. Thankfully, I got to experience playing music with these iconic musicians, as well as some fun times laced with humor. I also really enjoyed spending lots of time with the crew. And then there’s the Grammy win, which was amazingly satisfying. To the fans: thank you so much for being amazing to me. I cherish the pictures I have of you all losing your minds and having fun. Finally, I really love the band, crew and management and wish them and the entire organization all the best.”This past February, Mangini launched a new band, MONOLITH, with Hernán “Motley” Rodríguez on bass and vocals, and Andy Barrow on guitar.Mangini released his debut solo album, “Invisible Signs”, in November 2023. Accompanying Mangini on the LP were Tony Dickinson on bass, Ivan Keller on guitar, Gus G. (FIREWIND, OZZY OSBOURNE) on lead guitar and former EVANESCENCE guitarist Jen Majura on vocals.Mangini joined DREAM THEATER in late 2010 through a widely publicized audition following the departure of Portnoy, who co-founded DREAM THEATER 40 years ago. Mangini beat out six other of the world’s top drummers — Marco Minnemann, Virgil Donati, Aquiles Priester, Thomas Lang, Peter Wildoer and Derek Roddy — for the gig, a three-day process that was filmed for a documentary-style reality show called “The Spirit Carries On”.Mangini made his name in the hard rock world in the mid-1990s when he played with EXTREME, before landing the gig with guitar legend Steve Vai in 1996. Nearly a decade later, Mangini took up a full-time teaching position at the world-renowned Berklee College Of Music.In a recent interview with Loaded Radio, DREAM THEATER singer James LaBrie was asked how Mangini took the news in October 2023 when LaBrie and the rest of DREAM THEATER broke it to the drummer that Portnoy was coming back. James said: “Well, he was very professional about it. [It was] very admirable of him to have been… He took it in style and class. I mean, obviously, I think it would have been upsetting — it must have been upsetting — but he took it for what it’s worth and even saying things like, ‘It kind of makes sense, guys. I see why this should be happening and why this would maybe inevitably be happening. It just makes sense for the band and the amount of history that you all have together. It seems natural.’ So, yeah, no, he was a class guy. Classy. Yeah.”In a January 2024 interview with Chris Akin Presents…, Mangini was asked if he had any “advance notice” that Portnoy would return to DREAM THEATER in the fall of 2023 or if it was “really immediate”. He responded: “Immediate. But it’s like… So the fish comes up out of the water, it’s immediate, but the fish was swimming for a while. Where was the fish? Whatever.”He continued: “The reason it was easy for me to deal with — very easy, actually — I was, like, ‘Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Original guy back in band.’ I got I got it. And I didn’t have to go do through a drop-down menu; I didn’t have to do it. It was just I looked at it and went, ‘Okay.’ And plus I don’t know whether it was intuitive, instinctual [or] intellectual… but I have left so many things on the table for so many years — the publishing of more books, the classes that I wanna teach, the interaction that my own self-development comes largely from me having to teach and talk about it to people. At some point, I mean, I see the whole picture, the grid, and I know what I can’t do, and that inspires me.”But anyway, the answer to your question is, I got a call and understood the call, and said, ‘Okay, let’s do a joint statement,'” he explained. “And then the next day, I’m, like, ‘Okay.’ I’m having coffee and quite literally, at my think tank, looking at my list and going, ‘How am I gonna complete this job now? I’ve gotta fix this or do that. I’ve got a lot to do.’ My studio facility had construction, there was stuff that had to be fixed. I was, like, ‘Let me just let all of this stuff happen and breathe and just finish these things.’ So that’s what my mindset was. I can’t tell you anything different because that’s what it was.”Asked how he managed to avoid being angry over the fact that he was being pushed out of DREAM THEATER when Portnoy wanted to come back, even though Mangini was the drummer that helped the band win its first Grammy Award, Mangini said: “Well, a) because I don’t know that that’s what is the full picture. I don’t know that that is what happened indeed. And I don’t let myself even think about it. People decide things and I respect that. It’s just it is what it is.”In early November 2023, Mangini told SiriusXM’s “Trunk Nation With Eddie Trunk” about his exit from DREAM THEATER and the return of Portnoy: “All I know is the decision was made and when I heard it, all I pictured was, ‘Oh, this is an original guy going back to his band. Uh, okay. All right. Let’s go to the next thing.’ It was nothing more. I was told. It was just nothing more than — it seemed so simple to me. And maybe intuitively it’s, like, ‘Oh yeah, I get it.’ And that was that. That’s really it… So that’s really the crux of it all is it was an easy thing for me to understand. And then once the news hit and it became real, which is when it set in, because once I knew about it, I just got busy. I was, like, ‘Okay, I’ve got all these videos to finish.'”The 62-year-old Mangini, who joined DREAM THEATER in 2010, continued: “I’m actually doing like a lot of stuff for my [recently released solo] album. I’ll do some drum playthroughs. Not to yap and yap and yap about it, but I have a lot on my cork board and my lists and things to do and things to accomplish and things to complete. There’s so much there I haven’t been able to do. But once it hit and it became real, it was real quick for me. I’m, like, ‘Okay, I get it.'”When host Eddie Trunk noted that everything about his exit from DREAM THEATER, from the way it was handled to the fans’ response to Mike’s attitude about it, was “about as good as it could be,” Mangini concurred. “It is as good as it could be,” Mike said. “I think people are where they need to be. It’s, like, there’s stuff to do, there’s places to be, there’s people to see, there are things to accomplish and roles to fulfill and tasks to do. And that’s what it is. That’s really what it is.”How lucky am I, how fortunate am I to be just a part of that history, to have all this amazing stuff happen?” he continued. “It’s positive, positive, positive.”I know I’ve accomplished some things with my career, and I’ve had a lot of struggles and a lot of things that didn’t work or whatever, but for my parents to be in their 90s, to see this happen, and I’m not talking about career stuff; I’m talking about how I’ve treated people and how they treat me. I mean, I think that’s what I want for my kids — I wanna feel well about how they are with people and how people treat them at the end of the day. I think that’s just awesome.”[embedded content]
